I've looked at thread after thread on similar topics elsewhere, but have struck no mother lode in terms of actually finding a game. So, here's what i'm seeking:
1. Something similar in genre to Demon's Souls - action RPGs, that sort of stuff.
2. Something which requires a fair amount of reflex, skill and coordination - blocking at the right times, dodging, etc.
3. Something which doesn't offer an easy way out and is ruthless - for instance, dying causes you to lose everything you have, etc.
4. If there is a combat system, it should be fun. Demon's Souls is fun - it's open combat.
5. TROLLSTORM INCOMING: Decent graphics. Story gameplay blah blah, but every game released now-a-days has decent graphics, and in this the gaming market has instilled a standard which i seek and require. I'm not saying graphically older are BAD - just that i won't ENJOY them as much. So i want gameplay + GRAPHICS (possibly story, but DS didn't have much of that.)
Based on these criteria, and personal preference, the following games are ruled out:
1. World of Warcraft - why would anyone suggest this? I don't know, but i've seen it as a response to other threads. NO WAY. Played it, got bored. GRIND GRIND GRIND. LK + Cata take away any difficulty, so on so forth.
2. Vindictus - seen this one offered before. Was fairly fun to play, but just didn't have the ruthlessness of DS. Everything aside from SOME bosses was more or less a walk in the park. Furthermore, there are restrictions on competition with other players, instilled by the donator shop that Nexon is so proud of. The one who has the largest bank account wins, generally.
3. Dragon Age (Origins or 2) - Playing it right now and finding that while the story is immersive and interesting and combat is complex and requires strategy and coordination, it's just not for me. Yes, the combat meets the criteria - but it's hardly relentless and challenging. Pause, get a cup of tea, browse the Argos catalogue and queue up some orders. I'm not looking for all out hack'n'slash gameplay, but atleast something closer to that than Dragon Age.
4. Diablo (1 or 2) - Played and completed both (1 was far more challenging than 2, which really shows the way games are going in terms of difficulty.) Yet again, the combat isn't quite suiting to what i'm looking for - too much button smashing and not much timing or perfection required. When you get to a high level the game becomes an easy-*** faceroll and repetitive grinding.
5. Morrowind/Oblivion - played both. Far too open-ended to instill me to do anything at all or progress with the storyline. Enemies become easy-*** faceroll too quickly. Modding can improve this drastically, but i found myself much more involved with looking for b etter and better mods than actually PLAYING the game.
6. Any NWN, Baldur's Gate, blah, blah, blah. Rpg? Yes. What i'm looking for? NO.
Don't start arguments over why i'm wrong. This is my personal preference; I've sucked all the joy i can from these games, and they just don't fit into what i want anymore.
So... challenging, relentless, fun %26amp; rewarding, active and skill-requiring. FOR PC, NOT CONSOLE. If any of you millions of people can quench my thirst for this elusive game, i will metaphorically grant you the title 'Winner of Life'. And give you best answer. ;)|||Have you tried 'The Witcher' or the sequel when it comes out this year or even Dynasty warriors, not sure how that plays on a PC, but with the difficultly ramped up it could pose the challenge you are looking for.|||Personally, I'd say assassins creed. Part1, but especially part2. (there's also a part3, but I haven't played it yet) Good story, nice game play and not to easy.|||this doesn't really meet most or any of your criteria but have you ever tried the myst series.check them out and see what you think.if i have wasted your time im sorry.hope this helps.|||metal gear solid 4 because it is the best game with the best story, and character development and is challenging if you play on hard mode, having to play without being caught, you get rewarded with new weapons and other things.
Also, try sports games, a cricket simulation or football game.
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